Comments on: Website Update – Exceeding Expectations? or just Bandwidths.

By: Zac

Zac — Fri, 01 Jun 2007 17:52:55 +0000

Hey guys. You should check out Dreamhost.com.
i’m not hosted with them (have my own server) but you could go with them and get 3.8 tb for $79 a month.
Better yet, you could run a dedicated server on an unmetered port for cheap dollars too.

By: cheezburger

cheezburger — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 09:33:28 +0000

a) good idea… . let’s see how 8 works.
b) been trying to research this.
c) good point, i think the biggest hog is quoter… gonna disable now.

By: Majken

Majken — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 07:56:10 +0000

There are a bunch of things you can do to cut down. Without knowing how much of the bandwidth problem is from hotlinking and how much is simply from everyday readers here are some suggestions

a) show fewer lolcats per page. Looks like it’s 10 posts per page, but it’s only 2 or 3 new posts a day most times, so people who make a point of looking once a day will be using unnecessary bandwidth if the pictures aren’t cached.

b) get something that makes thumbnails for the main page and rss feeds. People can click to get the full pic if they want to/read the comments. Although I don’t mean tiny thumbnails, I mean decent sized so you can still see all the funny.

c) I’d look into how much extra bandwidth any of the cool new things are adding, like the new comment arrangement (I personally hate tree views anyway) and this nifty comment preview thing. Certainly not much compared to the images, but any place that makes a difference will help.

By: IGLOO!

IGLOO! — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 06:32:51 +0000

well I SURE R INTERRIGENTZ!

…

or not… how the hell did I not notice that be4? lol

I’ll be sure to toss ya some burgerz at the end of this weeks when i ain’t so brokeadid:D

By: Elfnow

Elfnow — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 01:17:30 +0000

sees above – they wuz already wif dreemhozt.

By: Elfnow

Elfnow — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 01:15:41 +0000

I finkz I has lotz of kawffyz rite den. Kawffyz iz gud.

By: Elfnow

Elfnow — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 01:14:38 +0000

well I helpz. I donatez. yay! U can haz mah cheezburgars!!

By: Pete

Pete — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 00:25:51 +0000

Actually, you can tell from the access logs and statistics reports! A good statistics program should be able to tell you how many images were referred from sites other than your own.

It’s okay, I understand you lurve myspace and can’t bear to shut them off =P

By: Amanda

Amanda — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 00:18:47 +0000

I agree with the “stopz teh hotlinkz” camp. But, I also trust that you guys will do what’s best for you and the site.

As soon as I have teh monies, again, I’ll help you guys out. (As it is, I need to come up with monies for my own site. Oh… and food… haha… silly me!)

*kisses* for all the _____burgrz – you guys are hardworking peeplz.

By: cheezburger

cheezburger — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 23:36:57 +0000

We were with dreamhost paul. and we hit 2.0 TB of use, but this caused a spike in the connections on their shared plans… which they then throttled us down… and asked us to find a dedicated host.

we’ve been in the queue for dreamhost dedicated… which is a month wait.

By: cheezburger

cheezburger — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 23:34:22 +0000

When we moved to the new server, I monitored the traffic… we were on track to stay within our bandwidth alottment even with hotlinking. Unfortunately, more traffic than I expected is coming and uploads are eating up a bigger portion of our bandwidth costs… those two put together blows my assumptions out of the water. So it’s my bad.

:-/ — we don’t mind hotlinkers if we can serve it.

By: cheezburger

cheezburger — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 23:32:08 +0000

can’t do that… flickr has a pretty complicated image hosting agreement, some of which we may violate. take down would be swift, me tinks.

By: Teho

Teho — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 20:51:36 +0000

‘pends… wich u want moar? Faems, or moneys?
Bests is peeps savign copys AND making linkbacks AND givings teh props. But moast not so thurrow.

By: Michael A. Vickers

Michael A. Vickers — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 20:42:02 +0000

Love the site, but unfortunately I’m not any good at the cat language spoken here.

Have you considered hosting your images at Amazon S3? $0.20 per GB per month for transfer, $0.15 per GB per month for hosting/drive space. You only pay for what you use.

By: Adam

Adam — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 20:33:06 +0000

yeah, that and dead photobuket links. plus i think teh lolrus would feel bad

By: Lis Riba

Lis Riba — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 20:21:18 +0000

As somebody who recently hotlinked to a few images (partly to promote the site to friends) you may want to make it clear somewhere upfront that it’s *okay* to make personal copies of the pics instead of hotlinks.

I know some sites frown on that kind of thing for copyright or tracking reasons, so may want to say upfront you prefer people make copies rather than hotlink.

I’ll go fix my blog entry accordingly.

By: viciouskittie

viciouskittie — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 19:50:06 +0000

cheezyburger you could never let us down.. we loves you and tofuburger..

By: Teho

Teho — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 19:49:06 +0000

[quote comment="6709"]Like, if people would use a service like http://www.imgred.com/ when they hotlink[/quote] I can has ImgRed wif my AllYouCanUplodes too??

By: Teho

Teho — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 19:45:03 +0000

[quote comment="6700"]lol... just trying to keep the site up ... [/quote] Mabey der is pils fr dis? Sumbudy tol me.

By: BonzoGal

BonzoGal — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 19:17:24 +0000

Dump the hotlinking feature- u r bein 2 nice! We all luuurrrrrve the (insert type of)burgers’ efforts and site, and support lolcats with cash-monies.

By: cheezburger

cheezburger — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 19:14:01 +0000

We can’t verify that myspace is hotlinking the most Pete. That’s the biggest problem. We can’t just go willy-nilly blocking sites… because it’s part of the webs… and we have my myspace friends, as well as lj friends, and fark friends. it’s a little complicated. or maybe i’m just too chzbrgr’y and not enough it/sysadmin’y.

By: rgm

rgm — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 19:08:24 +0000

You can try to use Coral Cache links for images, that might help a lot:
http://www.coralcdn.org/

Just add “.nyud.net:8080″ right after the “.com” — for example:
http://www.icanhascheezburger.com.nyud.net:8080/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/durrr.jpg

By: EightBitBravo

EightBitBravo — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 18:02:59 +0000

I didn’t know about http://www.imgred.com/ ! But now that I do I’ll be using it all the time. Thanks!!

By: Pete

Pete — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 17:39:25 +0000

Told you to block myspace hotlinking.. but did you listen?

By: PlNG

PlNG — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 17:32:13 +0000

Blame Fark users for hotlinking your pics there.

By: K

Tue, 17 Apr 2007 17:27:48 +0000

Do wuteva u have to do to keep goin! I luvs dis site Makes me happies.

By: Jess

Jess — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 17:16:54 +0000

Agreed. Hotlinking is for jerks.

By: Eric

Eric — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:37:04 +0000

My hosting is currently running about $9.95/mo and I have 2.4TB/month transfer available. It sounds to me like maybe you just need to spread the load out a bit somehow, or find a cheaper host! Dreamhost may not be the PERFECT host sometimes, but for the price, you can get an asstardload of bandwidth.

By: Teho

Teho — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:32:39 +0000

server not problems… TUBES is problems

By: Amanda

Amanda — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:21:50 +0000

Either that or have you purchased a server??

By: Amanda

Amanda — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:21:21 +0000

It isn’t preferred saving and giving credit is preferred.

May I ask why dont you go and buy a seperate account for your images?? that way you can have a cheap domain cost and then a cheap hosting for images cost. there are a lot of places who offer great TB bandwidth.

By: Cottleston Pie

Cottleston Pie — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:56:08 +0000

I’m not a techie, so correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t hotlinking (linking directly to the original photo) preferred over having people saving copies of your photos all over the place and then having your stuff floating all over the Internet and nobody knowing where it came from or to whom it belongs?

I understand about the bandwidth issues, but how otherwise do you make sure people aren’t stealing credit for your photos?

By: Teho

Teho — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:46:39 +0000

Hi Peter. Small world!

By: Teho

Teho — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:43:17 +0000

Elfnow iz litl scaries.

By: Teho

Teho — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:41:20 +0000

I has see too manys “PHOTOBUKKIT BNADWITH ESXEEDED” mesagis to trus dem.

By: Mike

Mike — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:30:44 +0000

Seriously, just disable hotlinking permanently. Webmasters understand.

By: Cat

Cat — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:22:35 +0000

*clickz da supportzbutton*

By: Fabulous Geek

Fabulous Geek — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 14:51:24 +0000

Have you considered getting a dreamhost account? their cheap plan has 2 TB of bandwidth, and the more expensive plans are better than that.

By: Flaming Atheist

Flaming Atheist — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 13:58:37 +0000

The hotlink issue really springs up when someone hotlinks to the LiveJournal cat_macros group – there are nearly 6000 members of that comm with over 3000 who ‘watch’ it via friends lists, take into account multiple daily views of their friends page and you’re looking at a burger-bandwidth eating monster for onlyl one or two hotlinks. I say kill the hotlinking if it’ll keep the LOLCats coming, people can figure out saving the image and using another hosting service.

By: Peter

Peter — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 13:37:33 +0000

Exceeding bandwidth is an awesome problem to have as long as you’re making enough money by the ads to support the costs. I hope you have a good analytics package installed so you can prove to future advertisers how much traffic you’re getting. You could be on the road to making some real money with the site! As someone who runs a couple of popular sites, I can empathize with your growing pains.

Best wishes!
Peter

By: Max Cascone

Max Cascone — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 13:01:51 +0000

All you image linkers: there's a service called "imgred.com" that will greatly reduce the load on this server, and any other image sites you use. You just add "http://imgred.com" to the image address, and then the first time that page gets loaded, imgred.com will grab and cache the image, and from then on that page will only hit imgred.com for the image. Example: img src="http://imgred.com/http://site.com/image.jpg"> Hopefully this will help reduce the load a little.

By: Faith

Faith — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:44:34 +0000

Sabrina, thaz prolly it. I wuz just skurred of losing the lolcatz goodness.

By: sabrina

sabrina — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:20:28 +0000

Faith, is mebbe ur browzer cache? 1ce u load piccies up, by looking at real site, returning 2 LJ feed doesn’t relode, uses saved filez on ur disk (nsted of fetching “no hotlinking” cat agin). feeture is sposed to make ur browzer faster by not asking teh intarnetz 4 pics agin.

Also, wow, is weird tryn splain cache in lolspeek.

By: Paul

Paul — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:16:19 +0000

Who is your hosting provider? 2.6TB is nuttin. You should check out Dreamhost, for 19.95/mo you get 3.6TB of bw to start out with and it goes up by 32GB per week. So by the next year, you will be at 5.2TB of bandwidth allowance for the same monthly rate. But hey if you do switch to dreamhost, make sure you put “pjb” as the one who referred you.

By: snoo

snoo — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:13:51 +0000

hey there, sorry i can only offer 50 gb
too bad, i really wanted to help.. i dig your site… its awesome.

By: sabrina

sabrina — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:13:12 +0000

I has mooched enuf. I is brownbagging delicious sandwich to donate lunch monies to cheezburger! Save teh endangerd lolcats! Not for to lose daily lolz; else why show up at werk?!

By: Elfnow

Elfnow — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:08:08 +0000

Huzzah for oyztar inlightinmint!! YAY!! Dat grayn of zand dat wuz hawtlynk iz now pearl ov imig redirekt. Nowe I kutz u opin and eets u.

o wait. Mebby nawt.

By: Elfnow

Elfnow — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:05:21 +0000

Der alredi iz a Plz donayt munny link. It sez “SUPPORT US!!” and it haz pix of cheez & tofu burgarz. Go klik!! Is on rite-hand site of main payg, below site nooz.

–E

By: FOR

FOR — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:00:16 +0000

I noticed that the pics show up in the RSS feed (I read your feed through a widget on my Google Homepage). Maybe removing the images from the feed would help ? Best of luck. Wish I had bandwidth to spare

By: oyster

oyster — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 11:56:29 +0000

Ooh!! the image redirect thing is super easy to use!
YAY!! now there can be lolcatz again.